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[[File:Halichondria panicea.jpg|thumb|Halichondria panicea or the breadcrumb sponge- Stamenković et al's paper cites research by Mills et al using this sponge which showed it can survive with only 0.002 moles per cubic meter (0.064 mg per liter). This new research suggests that these concentrations can be achieved in {{w|Supercooling|supercooled}} brines on modern Mars in polar regions.]]
===Oxygen requirements for complex life such as sponges===
 
'''''(background information):''''' Stamenković et al incite theira paper cite research from 2014 that showed that some simple sponges can survive with only 0.002 {{w|Mole (unit)|moles}}per cubic meter (0.064 mg per liter) <!-- first page of Nature paper, "Meanwhile, whereas aerobic microbial life and simple animals need O<sub>2</sub> dissolved in liquids in sufficiently large concentrations to survive, recent experiments, observations and calculations have lowered the required limits of concentrations of dissolved O<sub>2</sub> for aerobic respiration to ~10−6 mol m−3 in microorganisms and to ~2 × 10−3 mol m−3 in sponges"-->. Some microbes that need oxygen can survive with as little as a millionth of a mole per cubic meter (0.000032 mg, or 32 nanograms per liter). In their model, they found that there can be enough oxygen for microbes throughout Mars, and enough for simple sponges in oases near the poles.
 
Some microbes that need oxygen can survive with as little as a millionth of a mole per cubic meter (0.000032 mg, or 32 nanograms per liter). In their model, they found that there can be enough oxygen for microbes throughout Mars, and enough for simple sponges in oases near the poles.
 
This new research greatly expands the possibilities for complex life on Mars. The paper includes a map of potential brine oxygen concentrations for calcium perchlorates brines on the surface of Mars (their [https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-018-0243-0/figures/3 figure 3a]). These would be higher at the lowest points such as the floor of the {{w|Hellas Planitia|Hellas basin}}, south of the equator, where the atmospheric pressure is highest, reaching around 1% of Earth's atmosphere and lowest of all in the mountainous tropical southern uplands. But the highest values of all would be for brines at the poles.
[[File:PIA22546-Mars-AnnualCO2ice-N&SPoles-20180806.gif|thumb|Extents of north (left) and south (right) polar CO<sub>2</sub> ice during a Martian year. These are not photos, rather they are based on infrared data from two instruments that can study the poles even at times of complete darkness. The dry ice here reaches temperature of around -125&nbsp;°C, well below its sublimation temperature of -78.5&nbsp;°C, which gives an idea of how cold the Martian poles get in winter. In Vlada Stamenković et al's model the highest oxygen concentrations occur at temperatures down to -123 to -133&nbsp;°C.]]
 
Stamenković et al found that even in the worst case they could devise, oxygen levels throughout Mars would be enough for the least demanding {{w|Aerobic organism|aerobic}} (oxygen using) microbes, at around 2.5 millionths of a mole per cubic meter (0.0008 mg per liter). That's the value for the tropical southern uplands, where temperatures are high and the atmosphere is thin, and for their brine with the lowest oxygen solubilities, sodium perchlorate. They also calculated this figure using their worst case estimate (where they do the calculations on their least optimistic assumptions). However, they give reasons for believing that their more optimistic best case calculations are close to the true situation.
 
===Lowest and highest oxygen concentrations in their maps===