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Most of the issues raised were in a situation where I or another author added substantial new content, spent a long time over it, and another editor suddenly deleted it or nominated it for deletion, with no prior discussion or involvement in the editing. |
Most of the issues raised were in a situation where I or another author added substantial new content, spent a long time over it, and another editor suddenly deleted it or nominated it for deletion, with no prior discussion or involvement in the editing. |
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All the verbosity came about when I tried to get material like this restored or defended it from deletion. |
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I rarely try to add substantial new content nowadays. The last time was two years previously; the rest of my recent article creations are redirects [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Robertinventor&namespace=0&tagfilter=&newOnly=1&start=2015-08-01&end=2017-08-31]. |
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My plan if unblocked is to do most of my substantial editing in my own wikis. If I do anything like that here, I will endeavour to find support of co-editors with diverse views first. I also recommend this to friends. This will also help with gray area issues of encyclopedic tone, notability, reliable sources and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view WP:NPOV]. |
My plan if unblocked is to do most of my substantial editing in my own wikis. If I do anything like that here, I will endeavour to find support of co-editors with diverse views first. I also recommend this to friends. This will also help with gray area issues of encyclopedic tone, notability, reliable sources and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view WP:NPOV]. |
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I shouldn't have problems with verbosity if I do this. I will also continue to work on reducing my word count in talk page conversations. |
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* I will use the sandbox to reduce word count - see the note to myself at the head of the talk page. |
* I will use the sandbox to reduce word count - see the note to myself at the head of the talk page. |
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I don't have much to go on with the closing statement: ''"Closing with a consensus towards an indef block, plus my own admin judgment in that direction"''[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=855723651#User:Robertinventor,_again]. The problem I have here is that the main thing I did "wrong" according to the unblock debate was to defend my Modern Mars Habitability article from being deleted which they say as [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CHEESE WP:CHEESE]. If I could agree with that unblock is simple. But what do you do if you can't agree with that? This is my best try: |
As for the rest of the charges, I don't have much to go on with the closing statement: ''"Closing with a consensus towards an indef block, plus my own admin judgment in that direction"''[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=855723651#User:Robertinventor,_again]. The problem I have here is that the main thing I did "wrong" according to the unblock debate was to defend my Modern Mars Habitability article from being deleted which they say as [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CHEESE WP:CHEESE]. If I could agree with that unblock is simple. But what do you do if you can't agree with that? This is my best try: |
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* '''''Contributing an article in March 2017 that contradicts statements in Life on Mars that the Mars surface is known to be sterile [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FModern_Mars_habitability&diff=prev&oldid=855472459], and defending it from deletion.'''''[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&diff=prev&oldid=855483230] For another perspective on why I defended it from deletion, please watch this short (less than two minutes) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk-Ycp5llEI official NASA video] about planetary protection for Mars organisms. It's the third video on the main overview page for the NASA Office of Planetary Protection[https://planetaryprotection.nasa.gov/overview]. I understand that the final decision of the Wikipedia community is that material that contradicts that section[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Mars#Cumulative_effects] should be deleted. However please don't make it an unblock requirement that I have to say that NASA's views are [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CHEESE WP:CHEESE]. |
* '''''Contributing an article in March 2017 that contradicts statements in Life on Mars that the Mars surface is known to be sterile [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FModern_Mars_habitability&diff=prev&oldid=855472459], and defending it from deletion.'''''[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&diff=prev&oldid=855483230] For another perspective on why I defended it from deletion, please watch this short (less than two minutes) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk-Ycp5llEI official NASA video] about planetary protection for Mars organisms. It's the third video on the main overview page for the NASA Office of Planetary Protection[https://planetaryprotection.nasa.gov/overview]. I understand that the final decision of the Wikipedia community is that material that contradicts that section[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Mars#Cumulative_effects] should be deleted. However please don't make it an unblock requirement that I have to say that NASA's views are [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CHEESE WP:CHEESE]. |
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